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Post by jools on Apr 18, 2015 1:42:58 GMT -5
I started taking 10mg citalopram last tuesday and I will report here how it goes. People warned me about all kinds of possible side effects but I haven't really noticed anything yet (I don't know if that's a good thing or not). Apparently we're going to raise the dose to 20mg in the next week or two.
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lazey
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Post by lazey on Apr 19, 2015 21:27:05 GMT -5
It sounds familiar so I think I took it at one point but I can't remember how I reacted to it. Think it was badly... But those kids of meds effect everyone differently. I hope it helps.
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Post by jools on Apr 21, 2015 8:58:28 GMT -5
We're going to continue with a daily 10mg dose at least for two more weeks before raising it.
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Post by Michael T on Apr 21, 2015 17:56:37 GMT -5
We're going to continue with a daily 10mg dose at least for two more weeks before raising it. CelexaCitalopram is an antidepressant in a group of drugs called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs). Citalopram is used to treat depression. Citalopram may also be used for purposes not listed in this medication guide.
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Post by jools on Apr 28, 2015 11:52:21 GMT -5
Day 14, haven't really noticed any change yet.
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Post by Michael T on Apr 30, 2015 6:52:39 GMT -5
Give it at least 30 days before asking about it...they take a while
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Post by eliuri on Apr 30, 2015 8:17:15 GMT -5
Sometimes even more than 4 weeks before results are seen..According to Dr Staab
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Post by Michael T on Apr 30, 2015 17:53:57 GMT -5
Absolute truth...
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Post by jools on May 1, 2015 3:53:40 GMT -5
Yes, 'stay the course' like one person used to say a couple of times.
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Post by jools on May 12, 2015 12:48:27 GMT -5
We doubled the dose to 20mg today.
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Post by Michael T on May 12, 2015 15:53:22 GMT -5
wow, the big leagues !!!
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Post by crest on May 25, 2015 14:06:02 GMT -5
How are you getting on with the citalopram. I started 5 days ago on 10mg. Morning anxiety has shot through the roof. I'm hoping it is going to lessen my lightheaded dizziness in time.
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Post by jools on May 26, 2015 8:55:21 GMT -5
Week 7 is starting tomorrow and to celebrate that we're increasing the dose to 30mg. I haven't really noticed any side effects, on the other hand the positive effects have also been minor so far.
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Post by jools on Jun 23, 2015 11:18:47 GMT -5
I'm quitting citalopram, I've been eating it now for three months but it hasn't worked for me. There was a short better period in early june but I guess it didn't have anything to do with citalopram after all. Let's see what's next.
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Post by eliuri on Jun 23, 2015 23:44:35 GMT -5
Hi Jools:
Has another med in this group or an SNRI been recommended?
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Post by jools on Jun 24, 2015 10:32:33 GMT -5
Not yet, I'll see my neurologist next month. I'll keep you posted.
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Post by eliuri on Jun 24, 2015 13:08:26 GMT -5
Please do keep us posted, Jools. It seems it often takes trials of more than one of those.. I'm looking into something called: Hanna Somatics..In the meantime, might be worth exploring that approach, if not the specifics of the regimen/sequence..Was mostly designed for chronic, unexplainable pain/muscle tension, but the theory can readily be applied to CSD. At core of it is a notion of "sensory-motor amnesia" whereby as a result of trauma or stressed out living the brain actually "forgets" appropriate degrees of muscle tension and coordination, so that the body adopts maladaptive modes of movement as a result of this trauma based conditioning. Might be worthwhile to look into this until you undertake new medication regimen, if any.. I'll post about it here soon, if I can find the words to explain why this might well work for CSD.. In meantime, maybe have a look at some of the work of Thomas Hanna. Far more profound that Dr John Sarno , in my opinion.. Hanna Somatics
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Post by jools on Jun 24, 2015 23:08:28 GMT -5
Thanks, I'll check it out, never heard of it before.
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Post by jools on Jun 25, 2015 11:52:03 GMT -5
I visited their web page and to be honest, it sounded like scientology or some other cult. Pay this and that and we tell you how to be trouble free. Yet I'd like to sknow how their method differs from for example regular physiotherapy, pilates or yoga.
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Post by eliuri on Jun 26, 2015 0:32:00 GMT -5
Might be that the book by Thomas Hanna and some of the sites of their practitioners are different..The Somatics book explains the differences somewhat. It does give pretty much all the exercises , but a bit hard to follow from diagrams in a book: www.amazon.com/Somatics-Reawakening-Control-Movement-Flexibility/dp/0738209570/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435297292&sr=8-1&keywords=hanna+somaticsinkAlso: See if maybe this site is different: essentialsomatics.wordpress.com/as she actually offers free videos of most of what she has on her DVD BTW: I do notice that all sites I access about Somatics are commercial sites of some sort though...But I havent seen anything of a "secretive" nature to it yet. There's a medical team in Italy that developed a system of VRT: THE MCS (MECHANIC, CYBERNETICS AND SYNERGETICS) METHOD IN VESTIBULAR REHABILITATION Prof. Dr. Antonio.Cesarani (1) Prof. Dr. Dario Alpini (2) Prof. Dr. Saverio Capobianco (3) and published a specific protocol for PPV. Their system is remarkably similar to the exercises shown in the Somatics book , possibly this is what caught my attention. I'll provide link to abstract for their work. If youre interested I could find way to send you file of their specific protocol for PPV. I sure hope the rapid improvement in my shoulder blade pain was not merely a placebo effect
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Post by eliuri on Jun 26, 2015 1:43:48 GMT -5
I have a similar healthy skepticism of "holistic" healing, and often when some solid idea enters the "alternative medicine" arena, it does seem driven by marketing ...
I felt differently about this one on a gut level for several reasons.
It reminded me somewhat of the brilliant works of Wilhelm Reich--(especially his writings on "character armor") before he went nuts. Though of course it's hard to say exactly when that genius went over the edge...It's true that a whole bunch of "Reichian therapists" kinda grew like mushrooms later chock full of charlatanism in all likelihood..But I do think Wilhelm Reich was really on to something..both politically and in terms of healing
It also reminded me of the little I had read of Cesarini and Alpini's work on VRT...I've had difficulty understanding their work, but maybe I'll post here of the little I have of it..
~eli
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Post by jools on Jun 26, 2015 14:13:00 GMT -5
Well that looks better, less commercials, more info. Sensory-motor amnesia is a fascinating notion and I think that's just what has happened to us. What exercises have you been doing specifically? And maybe you could email the file to me you were talking about?
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Post by eliuri on Jun 26, 2015 17:59:04 GMT -5
Hi Jools: Heres list of exercises I've been doing so far, all found on utube: 1) Arch and Flatten:www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Y3NrRu72o2) Washrag:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5J2DXdub18&index=4&list=PL6LgF7nlyqWIvr7I9ieAlnM19eVvO-j2t3) Pulling Ropes:www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUn-3NLbwRoinkThese are intended for muscle tension, but its deeper sense is to send message to the brain to let go of the tension. Its not to alter, stretch or release trigger points in the muscle itself. Ut remains to be seen if this might have some effect on the "open loop control" dysfunction in PPV Send me your email address via private message, and I'll forward you the chapter on PPV by Alpini and Cesarani. (Wish i could finally get clarification if its ok to upload purchased articles to a closed group)... See if you notice some similarity in what they might be trying to say to what Thomas Hanna is saying in Somatics. Best wishes: ~eli
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Post by eliuri on Jun 26, 2015 18:24:41 GMT -5
Search utube under "Peterson" "Somatic"
You will probably find most of her exercises, many of which she uploaded herself. I wouldn't necessarily go by the specific body part referenced in the titles, as these are meant to affect the entire system
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Post by jools on Jun 27, 2015 5:44:14 GMT -5
Thanks Eli, PM sent.
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Post by eliuri on Jun 27, 2015 22:57:47 GMT -5
Another site you can get many of these is John Loupos UTube page: www.youtube.com/channel/UCE8s0jsMMv6QNS2Q8H6tRkwHes a bit more detailed in his presentation, but weaker in the visualization aspect that is Martha Peterson, but if there are gaps in her series orvague parts, u can double check against this one. I think they're in reverse order of how its intended. So the one on bottom is to be done first and up the list that way
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Post by jools on Jun 29, 2015 12:15:55 GMT -5
Great to see him doing those with his phone holster and other office gear on.
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Post by eliuri on Jun 30, 2015 13:42:04 GMT -5
I see now that Thomas Hanna Somatics is really an offshoot of the much broader Feldenkrais Method of Somatic movements..
Feldenkrais has been around about a half century longer than Hanna Somatics, and there are many more practitioners worldwide. So its more readily accessible, and classes less costly. Seems that the original teachings of Moshe Feldenkrais did have much on issues of balance and equilibrium. Possibly it can offer more in the way of CSD in the long run..
Downside is that I cant find some organized group of somatic-type sequences on utube or on sites, which can be readily viewed . As I could with Hanna Somatics..
But i do want to look into the Feldenkrais method a bit more...So fat I havent seen it putting forth a similar notion of "sensorimotor amnesia" and "redlight reflex" , "traumatic reflex" .etc..It was those notions that first attracted me to Hanna Somatics, because they rang so true for me...
Possibly, Feldenkrais has those notions as well, but in less dramatic format?
Do you know much about Feldenkrais?
~eli
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Post by jools on Jun 30, 2015 23:22:27 GMT -5
I've never heard of him before either. I guess somatic approach hasn't gotten that much of a foothold in Finland..
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Post by eliuri on Jun 30, 2015 23:59:02 GMT -5
Surprising, because it seems so international...
I've heard of him often, but never knew until recently what it was all about. Seems to have some interesting ideas about movement.
Is Qi Gong known there though?
It's actually a "somatic" approach as well, in the sense that it works by visualization of what the movements are doing--in terms of vital energy. The degree of stretching doesn't matter, because it works on higher centers.
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